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Saturday's Zokutou meet included writing a manifesto (and shouting out bits of it in Covent Garden) with [livejournal.com profile] eldar, [livejournal.com profile] verlaine, [livejournal.com profile] mcfie, and [livejournal.com profile] elvichar. We hung out at the ICA. Some lovely exhibitions there as usual, such as photos of two rather different towns in different countries, where all the bulbs in the streetlamps have been replaced by those from the other town. Saturday night, I ended up seeing a film - Adaptation.

On Sunday, [livejournal.com profile] verlaine and I scoured the streets of London for the pink tank that we'd seen a photo of the day before. After many chirping subways with flaking ceilings, the tank was found on a desolate piece of land on a street corner. It was still bright pink, barbified, but with moss growing on it, so we climbed it.

Re: adaptation

Date: 2003-03-11 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verlaine.livejournal.com
I really liked it, but I think it's a complicated film that tries to work on so many levels that it starts to leave the viewer's head hurting.

I didn't really see Charlie and Donald as different characters, at least not on one level - on one level they are the two different sides of the author's personality, failing to gel with one another. Let's not forget that the script is credited to "Charlie & Donald Kaufman" despite (as we secretly know in reality) being written by only one person. Charlie is the part that wrestles with the guilt of wanting to and failing to create high art, Donald is the pop-culture entertainer side. I think they're both definite aspects of the (real-world) Charlie Kaufman.

If Charlie treats Donald badly, it's a representation of CK's internal conflict, not really a suggestion that Charlie is a "real" writer and Donald a cheap, fake one.

Ergh, this film is impossible to write about due to the layering, the way things mean something on a straightforward level, and then something else on a meta- level, and then probably something else again on a meta-meta- level. Or something.

Re: adaptation

Date: 2003-03-11 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
We can always write about pink tank-shaped orchids instead.

Re: adaptation

Date: 2003-03-12 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] criesbella.livejournal.com
anne here--jodi's friend state side.

you make good points about the charlie/donald
character as same person. while i have followed
many "good/evil twin" storylines on soap operas,
i just didn't read THIS movie character as 2 sides
of the same person--not until the death scene.

i guess that's b/c i am a poorer pop culture junkie
than i imagine myself to be--
i know next to NOTHING about kaufman to begin with.
hey--my momma done raised no fool,
but i watched the movie for 2hrs. thinking,
"how can he treat his BROTHER that way?"

now WE may all treat OURSELVES "that way," but
i wasn't going there. i thought charlie was a MEAN PERSON.

when i re-watch this movie, as i must (on dvd,
with dir. comments) i will look at it as kaufman
denying/suppressing his own ego. thanks.

--anne

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