Mongolian

Aug. 16th, 2004 11:12 am
[personal profile] squirmelia
I've been reading Trans-Siberian Railway books, and can actually remember three words of Mongolian:

byaslag - cheese
bayarlalaa - thank-you
tiim - yes

Date: 2004-08-16 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fluffymark
Very important words those. I can see myself having profound and deep conversations about cheese-buying with mongolians. I fear they may get a little repetitive after a while. But I like cheese a lot.

Have a *plan*. Its only as small plan as yet but it may turn into a bigger plan. Plan involves travelling the trans-siberian next summer. :)

Date: 2004-08-16 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
The cheese will taste very different to English cheese, I suspect. It all sounds a bit confusing:

'Tsagan-ide (white food) is very popular in Mongolia. From milk many kinds of dishes are prepared. First of all, the milk is boiled and is stirred many times, and after cooling, the "urum" (the thick skin on boiled milk) is taken off. Further, the boiled milk is fermented and used to make yogurt, aarts (sour cottage cheese), and aaruul (a dry curd sweet). A small quantity of yogurt is poured into hot milk and fermented, and from this byaslag (cheese), eezgii (dry curds) and eedem (similar to cheese) are made. Mongols very much prefer urum and aaruul among milk products. The people enjoy eating the above-mentioned products for lunch in summer and autumn. '

I'm not sure when exactly I'm planning to travel on the trans-sib, but it will be part of my travel plans in 2005 or 2006, I think! Most of the trans-sib packages only seem to involve staying in Mongolia for a few days, but I think I'd like to stay there a little longer.

Date: 2004-08-16 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sphyg.livejournal.com
And then taking the ferry to Tokyo?

Date: 2004-08-16 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
If you go on the Mongolian route, you don't end up in Vladivostok, which is where I think the ferry to Japan goes from? Although I suspect there are other ferries.

Date: 2004-08-16 08:52 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-08-16 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solitarywalker.livejournal.com
Mongolia is quite high on the list of places i'd like someday to visit.

Date: 2004-08-16 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fluffymark
ooooh. interesting cheese. Makes me really want to go there now.

I'd like to stop at various places along the way (Moscow, Baikal, Mongolia, Great wall, Beijing at least, probably more places as I read my book more)- I doubt I'll find a package I'm happy with, so I'll be arranging it all myself, which is the way I prefer to do holidays. I've had it in the back of my mind for years now, but i'm now ready to start planning it properly. I spent a lot of time at the weekend working it out with my atlas. *bounce*

Date: 2004-08-16 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
Cool! I think I'd be too confused and worried about getting lost to go by myself without some kind of package type thing, but am contemplating volunteer work in Mongolia, so may have to do so to some extent. Moscow and Baikal are definitely on my list to visit as well.

Date: 2004-08-16 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
sakhan aylaarai!

Date: 2004-08-16 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
It does seem very appealing.

Date: 2004-08-16 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neighbourhater.livejournal.com
yup, cant go to mongolia without knowing the translation for cheese!

Date: 2004-08-16 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
It would indeed be tragic - what would people write with?

Image

Date: 2004-08-16 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fluffymark
I doubt I could manage it entirely on my own - I am looking for others to go with, and have some degree of hope as I've caught several people flicking through my trans-sib book with enthusiasm. [livejournal.com profile] gnimmel was highly enthused with the idea last time I chatted to her about it. What I really want to do is prod one of my Russian-speaking friends to join me, as that would make the Russian leg of the journey a lot simpler. Finding someone who speaks mongolian is not going to happen, is it? I don't know how things will work out, but it's possible we may be able to co-ordinate travelling together? Certainly worth keeping in mind. I guess I should make a vague proposal on my journal and see how much interest and help I can acquire.

Date: 2004-08-17 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neighbourhater.livejournal.com
communication would break down, stock markets would crash, t'would mean the end of the world as we know it

Me's am back!!

Date: 2004-08-17 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiki-mog.livejournal.com
=p I'm back in the city, people of a nervous disposition (oh, that's me!?!)and small animals beware!!!

Date: 2004-08-17 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
Russian-speaking friends would indeed make it easier! Mongolian-speaking people might be hard to find, although Amazon seem to sell a Mongolian phrasebook (looks cheap so I might buy a copy). What trans-sib book have you got? I've been reading two fairly outdated ones (mid-nineties, I think, since some of the companies mentioned have Compuserve numbers) from the library.

I'm planning to travel roughly sometime between about August 2005 and about 2007, so am not quite going yet. Coordinating some travel together would be cool, or if not possible, we can share tips on how to purchase tickets and how to swig down the mare's milk. :)

Date: 2004-08-17 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
The world would resemble a block of mouldy cheese.

Re: Me's am back!!

Date: 2004-08-17 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
Welcome back! We all now speak Mongolian and hang out in medieval vaults. :)

Date: 2004-08-17 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fluffymark
I've the Lonely Planet Trans-Siberian guide, which I got new last summer, so it would be a lot more up to date. Russia has changed a lot in the past 5 years. I'll keep you informed of anything useful I find out. :)

Date: 2004-08-17 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neighbourhater.livejournal.com
that would explain the moon then

Date: 2004-08-17 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
It is trying to reflect the earth's inner self.

Date: 2004-08-17 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
I'll probably buy a new guide at some point, but am enjoying reading my outdated ones for the time being, even if they do have a tendency to go on about the history of the trains a bit much. :)

Re: Me's am back!!

Date: 2004-08-20 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiki-mog.livejournal.com
Ohh, medival vaults. Where? I know a huge wine cellar. Not sure where vaults are.
I'm gonna learn Japanese yay!!

Re: Me's am back!!

Date: 2004-09-02 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
The art vaults: http://www.artvaults.com
In the old town kind of area.

Japanese- cool! Where are you learning?

Re: Me's am back!!

Date: 2004-09-09 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiki-mog.livejournal.com
At Southampton University, as an adult education course.

Re: not on line often.

Date: 2004-09-09 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiki-mog.livejournal.com
Well only have access through friends or public.
only once a week or so. maybe we could meet some time?

Re: Me's am back!!

Date: 2004-09-09 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
The one at New College? I am planning to go to their information evening next week to see how advanced their 2nd and 3rd year classes are. If they're too advanced, I think Russian will be what I choose!

Re: not on line often.

Date: 2004-09-09 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirmelia.livejournal.com
I just got a phoneline, so I am planning to be online lots. But yeah, we could meet, and speak Japanese!

Re: not on line often.

Date: 2004-09-27 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiki-mog.livejournal.com
can you hide this too?

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